>> yeah, there is one by bob dylan. one by ben harper, metallica. >> brian: you're looking to build skate parks, 'cause no one is building them in that area. >> right. and a lot of people skate there. they would have other facilities besides skateboarding. most are choosing skates, to be honest. so we're trying to provide facilities for them. >> steve: you sell them without the wheels. what if the deal breaker is, i got to have the wheels back on? >> we'll get you some wheels, no problem. >> brian: with the emergence of the x games, do you ever wish you were coming up right now? you were the 19-year-old kid? >> honestly, i love being one of the pioneers, so to speak, and seeing it all develop and it's so amazing to me now that i get to do it into my adult life. i'm thankful for that. so not really. i can't say i'm not benefitting. >> steve: sure, because rather than just being one of the guys who do things, you're the guy who kind of invented a bunch of stuff. >> and it's fun to see the new guys coming up and the counts